In Namibia the abortion law is very strictly regulated – but last year in July a young, committed movement of activists started a petition that caused quite a stir. In our new episode we talk to one of them: Ndiilokelwa Nthengwe, a Namibian activist who has been at the forefront of the #ShutItAllDown Movement and the equal rights protests in Windhoek. She is also the co-founder of the Voices and Choices for Rights Coalition which started the petition to legalise abortion in Namibia. Also with us is multimedia journalist Lisa Ossenbrink, based in Windhoek. She reports on people, power and populism from Europe and Sub-Saharan Africa and has been published by Al Jazeera English, VICE World News and Deutsche Welle, among others. She is also a member of the network DEINE KORRESPONDENTIN.