“It’s this difference between hearing and listening; for decades we were hearing about this stuff but it was really only when the space opened up to listen and really appreciate what women and pregnant people and couples were going through… I think that because so many women came forward… it humanised what was actually going on and it allowed people to free themselves from the silence first of all, and once you break the silence, you kind of break the stigma and once you break the stigma, you kind of break the shame.”